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Title: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on August 31, 2010, 01:33:13 AM
"true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away, bring no joy or lasting pleasure. true love abides all way. through the world i'll gladly go, if one true love i know."
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on October 12, 2010, 04:17:16 AM
kung sa baga bahala ug saging basta labing2  ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on October 12, 2010, 07:03:21 AM
as long as people love each other wholeheartedly,that's what matter most
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on November 10, 2010, 07:40:09 PM
Been 10 odd yrs since marriage collapsed. Still searching for true love.
At the rate marriages are disintegrating, wonder if true love still exists. Marriage has become a fake, a fraud, and just sh*t.
"We are all hypocrites. We all fail to love."
- from the movie 'The Magus', starring Candice Bergen, Anthony Quinn, & Michael Caine.

Now, me here in the last part of my life. A lonely drifter looking for the dignity of love.
Must say that you unmarried blokes who are 'lampas sa kalendaryo' are like me. Leading a humdrum existence. A writer describes as, "a fugue of tedium, of stultifying ennui". Searching for someone to give meaning to that empty world of yours. Les miserables having that pangs of hunger for love. Of course, you won't admit you're also having that quest. Hehehe.
Diff is, you'd have that gnawing feeling inside you that you're still missing something in your life. Unlike me. Been through it. 'di na ako magsisi. Marriage is as much a part of life as it is to breathe the free air. So is divorce. Hahaha.

“Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.

Old man look at my life,
Twenty four
and there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.

Love lost, such a cost,
Give me things
that don't get lost.
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you.

Old man take a look at my life
I'm a lot like you
I need someone to love me
the whole day through
Ah, one look in my eyes
and you can tell that's true.

Lullabies, look in your eyes,
Run around the same old town.
Doesn't mean that much to me
To mean that much to you.

I've been first and last
Look at how the time goes past.
But I'm all alone at last.
Rolling home to you.

Old man take a look at my life
I'm a lot like you
I need someone to love me
the whole day through
Ah, one look in my eyes
and you can tell that's true.

Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.”
- from the song 'Old Man' by Neil Young

*****

Couple of yrs ago, bumped into a Pinoy nurse. Mid-30s. Wife also a Pinay nurse. Married in Phil. Went to Eng. Separated. Re-united after 3 months. After Eng contract expired, came to Aus. Again separated. This time he said it's for good. They were on working visa here. So, probably divorced. Returned to Phil after visa expired and went their separate ways. Have a small kid. Kawawa ang anak.

*****

Phil's really a promiscuous society. Been like that even before left. Shame culture. But not guilt culture. Ie, ashame to display it. But don't feel guilty doing it. Wearing a mask, so to speak. :) ;)
Title: Love me when I least deserve it, because that's when I really need it.”
Post by: juan on December 04, 2011, 07:05:23 PM
“Love me when I least deserve it, because that's when I really need it.”  :) ;)
- Swedish Proverb
 
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: felix on December 04, 2011, 08:17:08 PM
i wish i can find one
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 04, 2011, 08:39:14 PM
i wish i can find one
You’re not alone in your journey, mate! :) ;)
Title: The love that lasts the longest is the love that can never be.
Post by: juan on December 04, 2011, 08:42:34 PM
"The love that lasts the longest is the love that can never be."  :) ;)
- S. Maugh
Title: There is no lonelier man in death, except the suicide, than that man who
Post by: juan on December 04, 2011, 08:45:54 PM
"There is no lonelier man in death, except the suicide, than that man who has lived many years with a good wife and then outlived her. If two people love each other there can be no happy end to it."  (Ernest Hemingway)
:) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on December 05, 2011, 10:36:08 AM
just believe
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 05, 2011, 04:23:34 PM
Just believe or just want to believe? Been asking that myself many2X times. Reminds me of a Greek bloke bumped into in the hospital.

To most, Marianne (Liv Ullmann) and Johan (Erland Josephson) always seemed like the perfect couple. But when Johan suddenly leaves Marianne for another woman, the veil of perfection has been lifted and they are forced to confront the disintegration of their marriage.

Recommend viewing.

*****

Once went to the hosp. Bumped into a Greek in his mid 60s. Sold his fish shop business to devote ft to care wife. Wife been dialyzing 10+ yrs. In & out of hosp many Xs. Going downhill. Could see sad look in his eyes. Were married when they were early 20s. One and only.
Has a son. Already divorced 4X. Latest wife a Pinay. Again, marriage disintegrating. Asked me, "Mate, what's going on with marriage today"? Replied, "Yeah, mate, marriage is now a crap commitment".  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

_____
"For the times, they are a'changin'"
:) ;)
Title: A true love is always there for you, a fake love is only there when they wan
Post by: juan on December 16, 2011, 12:22:49 AM
"A true love is always there for you, a fake love is only there when they want something from you. (anon)" :) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 17, 2011, 06:00:34 AM
as long as people love each other wholeheartedly,that's what matter most
Super like
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 17, 2011, 06:01:40 AM
"A true love is always there for you, a fake love is only there when they want something from you. (anon)" :) ;)
Tinuod jud ni Juan
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 17, 2011, 06:03:47 AM
"The love that lasts the longest is the love that can never be."  :) ;)
- S. Maugh

Hala! Wa ko kasabot  ???
Elaborate Juan plz
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: felix on December 17, 2011, 07:56:30 PM
Hala! Wa ko kasabot  ???
Elaborate Juan plz
wala na kuno'y chance hahaha
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 17, 2011, 08:16:06 PM
Hala! Wa ko kasabot  ???
Elaborate Juan plz
wala na kuno'y chance hahaha
"The love that lasts the longest is the love that can never be”

Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

The hardest thing to do is watch the one you love, love someone else

A mighty pain to love it is,
And 'tis a pain that pain to miss;
But of all pains, the greatest pain
It is to love, but love in vain.

In a perfect world, when he's with her, he would be wishing he was with me; when he looked at her, he would be looking at me; when he smiled at her, his smile would be for me; when he thought about someone, he would be thinking about me. In a perfect world, he would realize that she wasn't the one he was supposed to be with and I would still be standing here waiting for him still when he finally knows this. But this isn't a perfect world and people do get hurt, you smile when you feel like crying, you act like you're okay when you're falling apart inside and you let it go. You move on, because there's nothing else you can do."

How can you simply be friends with someone when every time you look at them, you're thinking about how much more you really want?"

The roads of life are strewn with the wreckage of run-down, half-finished loves

If I were you I'd promise to live life for all it's worth, take all you've been given and leave your mark upon this Earth. Trust your heart to show you everything you need...and if you were you, I'd fall in love with me

Sometimes I wish I had never met you, because then I could go to sleep at night not knowing there was someone like you out there

For all sad words of tongue and pen, the saddest are these, 'It might have been

Loving you is like trying to touch a star, I know I can never reach you, but I can't help but try

The saddest thing in the world, is loving someone who used to love you.

You never lose by loving. You always lost by holding back.

I get the best feeling in the world when you say hi or even smile at me because I know, even if its just for a second, that I've crossed your mind.
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 17, 2011, 08:27:59 PM
"The love that lasts the longest is the love that can never be."  :) ;)
- S. Maugh
Another interpretation is,
“The Love That Last The Longest Is The Love That Is Never Returned”.
Could be because the loved one died;
Or, the love was verboten in the first place. Like my first love. Will die only if find another. Otherwise, will last till my last breath.
  :) ;)
Title: Solitaire
Post by: juan on December 17, 2011, 08:42:37 PM
- sung by the Carpenters

There was a man, a lonely man
Who lost his love through his indifference
A heart that cared, that went unchecked
Until it died in his silence

And solitaire's the only game in town
And every road that takes him, takes him down
And by himself, it's easy to pretend
He'll never love again

And keeping to himself he plays the game
Without her love it always ends the same
While life goes on around him everywhere
He's playing solitaire

Another day, a lonely day
So much to say that goes unspoken
And through the night, his sleepless nights
His eyes are closed, his heart is broken

And solitaire's the only game in town
And every road that takes him, takes him down
And by himself it's easy to pretend
She's coming back again

And keeping to himself he plays the game
Without her love it always ends the same
While life goes on around him everywhere
He's playing solitaire

A little hope, goes up in smoke
Just how it goes, goes without saying
Solitaire
And by himself it's easy to pretend
He'll never love again
Ohhh

And keeping to himself he plays the game
Without her love it always ends the same
While life goes on around him everywhere
He's playing solitaire
Solitaire, solitaire

Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 18, 2011, 08:34:35 PM
Maka nose bleed oi   ::);D but, it might be true huh! Based on Juan's experienced.  Maglisod ko ug type sa akong gusto I xplain ga una ako huna2 dugay mo type Kay super tugnaw jud ;D
Nywayz,, another lesson to be learned
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 18, 2011, 10:08:40 PM
As my fans say about me, "Hilig sa copy/paste". Hehehe. :) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 18, 2011, 11:00:26 PM
Yep. Our love was verboten. ‘coz she’s a Pinay.
Garduque, scion of a noble Spanish family, fell in love with a peasant girl, Mutya Marina. In those days, such a relationship was taboo. The Filipino was considered an inferior race. Called indio.
The lovers eloped by boat. Garduque's family took chase. As they were closing in, the lovers sunk their boat and drowned themselves in the sea.
Not long after, an island was born on the spot the lovers perished. It was christened 'Marinduque', a contraction of the lovers' joint names. :) ;)
Yeah, felix, you got me really thinking on this yesterday at the beach!

Remember middle child syndrome? Wanting to prove me better than my siblings? That simply spells ambition.
After grad, I could have gone back to her. But my mind was set on my ambition. Besides, I was too proud to beg her to take me back. Pride is such a foolish mask. You could say that my ambition superseded my love.
Paid the price. Relationships were either fleeting or non-enduring. Even marriage was broken.
“The game of love I played with arrogance and pride
And every flame I lit so quickly, quickly died”
- song line from Charles Aznavour “Yesterday When I Was Young”

Now a lonely drifter. Searching for my holy grail. Will I find it? Maybe this year. Maybe next year. Maybe never. Who cares?
Di btao ako ang pataygutom. Mao nai kina-iya sa ato. Gutom na, ma-ot lang gihapon. Nagsalig lang kai kitang mga o/s Pinoy charitable man kaau. Biay2Xon pa ta.
:) ;)
Had I begged would she have taken me back? Now, I’ll never know. Hehehe. ::) ;)
In love, it is better to know and be disappointed, than to not know and always wonder. (anonymous)  :) ;)
  :) ;)

Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 19, 2011, 03:12:36 AM
As my fans say about me, "Hilig sa copy/paste". Hehehe. :) ;)
It doesnt bothered me at all,as long as theres a lesson on wat u r copy/paste ;D
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 19, 2011, 03:19:13 AM
As wat u said..maayo pay masakitan kaysa mag assumed  ;D

Nywayz,might i do write a book of love then...  :D
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 19, 2011, 06:42:55 PM
As wat u said..maayo pay masakitan kaysa mag assumed  ;D

Nywayz,might i do write a book of love then...  :D
It goes deeper than this.
Surely, you’re familiar with the old Japanese word “gidi” or “kidi”. Translated in English, it simply means “moral obligation”. But the Japanese meaning goes a lot deeper. Reason the ancient Samurai warriors, who broke the Bushido code, rather commit sepukko than dishonour his ancestors by staying alive. He loses face, anyway. Rather lose his life than lose his face. ;)
"If you don't feel it, you don't have it. (A Japanese saying)"  :) ;)
The Chinese has a similar code. I must admit that, so many times, it has greatly influenced my decision making. We are all products of the heredity and social, physical, etc factors that influence us. In other words, we make decisons based on how we are programmed since childhood. ;)
In simple mathematical equation, Heredity + Environment = You.
So, what regrets are we talking about? Me for being me? ??? Hehehe.
:) ;)
Maybe I really didn’t care. As such, why should I be hurt now? ??? :) ;)
"Yesterday when I was young
The taste of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue
I teased at life as if it were a foolish game
The way the evening breeze may tease the candle flame
A thousand dreams I dreamed
The splendid things I planned
I always built alas on weak and shifting sand
I lived by night and shunned the naked light of day
And only now I see how the years ran away ..."

- song line from "Yesterday When I Was Young"
:) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 19, 2011, 07:18:36 PM
It doesnt bothered me at all,as long as theres a lesson on wat u r copy/paste ;D
The ultimate lesson is, "Life is just a joke. A comedy of errors". ;D :D :) ;)
"Much of our life is imposed by others needs which we try as we can to meet the goals set upon us, knowing not why we strive to be or at least appear to be better than all around us we tarry through life until we die.
At this time I wonder how many regret time taken from them by proving themselves to others, or do they simply regret not having more or being more.
As eyes close and tethers are broken the chains we tied disappear just like the reality that existed which is they were never there but simply a figment that was produced so we feel superior.
I opt for trial by fire at death, let that give my soul wings rather than rot bitter and twisted slowly composting." (Anonymous)  :) ;)
:) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 19, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
The ultimate lesson is, "Life is just a joke. A comedy of errors". ;D :D :) ;) :) ;)
Maybe..
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 19, 2011, 09:41:10 PM
Know why life is just a joke? ‘coz one can’t bring anything into one’s next life.
Mao btao samtang buhi pa, me get the most out of life. Marry the girl who’s worth all me have. Gotta be wary, though, that she’s not a thief. That’s the most difficult part. Hehehe.
:) ;)
The Tagala would say, "Ang habol namin sa boys ay,
1) PESOnality at 2) CARacter".

*****

But, at the end of the day, one would ask, "What have I accomplished in this life"?

Another way of asking this is, "What's my contribution to humanity"?

The answer boils down to the 2 of my favourite songs:

1) "The Impossible Dream" from the Man from La Mancha,
"This is my quest, to follow that star .....";
and
2) "My Way" sang by Frank Sinatra,
"I've lived a life that's full .....".

Nancy Sinatra also expressed this in her song (also my favourite), "You Only Live Twice" as,
1) one life for yourself; and,
2) one for your dream,
"This dream is for you, so pay the price .....".

But, really, life is just a joke. 'Cause one can't bring anything to one's next life.
Reminds me of a seminar I attended. We were told to write what kind of eulogy we'd like to have when we're inside the casket. I asked myself, "Do I really care"? Heheheh.
:) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on December 20, 2011, 12:04:02 AM
As wat u said..maayo pay masakitan kaysa mag assumed  ;D

Nywayz,might i do write a book of love then...  :D

fight fight fight to the finish
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 20, 2011, 04:34:51 PM
Know why life is just a joke? ‘coz one can’t bring anything into one’s next life.
Mao btao samtang buhi pa, me get the most out of life. Marry the girl who’s worth all me have. Gotta be wary, though, that she’s not a thief. That’s the most difficult part. Hehehe.
:) ;)

So so soooo sad to hear about your experienced juan,as you used the word "thieft"
But i guess you gained all the lesson from your past and hoping too nga u still didnt close ur door for another adventure of life ;D gudluck juan kaya mo yan..
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 20, 2011, 04:35:35 PM
fight fight fight to the finish

Fight fight if its worth fighting for.. ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 20, 2011, 05:23:59 PM
So so soooo sad to hear about your experienced juan,as you used the word "thieft"
But i guess you gained all the lesson from your past and hoping too nga u still didnt close ur door for another adventure of life ;D gudluck juan kaya mo yan..
Yes, thief.  :) ;)
Yeah, guys, learn lesson from one who's been robbed by thieves from all walks of life - ex-wife, siblings, lawyers, scammers, you-name-it. Hehehe.
Now, only left with what's in my head. No one can take it from me. Not all that bad, though. Can tutor calculus to young uni coeds in return for a cup of coffee. No big deal. Hehehe.
 :) ;)
Classify girls into 4 types, viz., rich girl, poor girl, beggar girl, and thief girl.
Thief girl. This girl is bad news. One most worried about;
Beggar girl. Not too keen on this type as her family will be too dependent on me. Don't think can help her lead a better life as her family will be hounding for more money;
Rich girl. Don't need her money. But will prove she didn't marry me for money. A very remote chance. Have to be very lucky like George Lazenby. Won't put too much hope in it;
Poor girl. So, here I am in the autumn of my life. Looking for a poor but deserving young Pinay. Help her lead a better life. In the spring of her life. Her whole life in front of her. Only need someone like me to give her momentum.
*****
You, Dawg, & I are tres desperadoes. Of course, both of you won't admit it. Male machismo. Hehehe.
Womanizing or whatever it is you're doing can never surpass having a wife & kids.
Been thru it. Nearly took my life when it collapsed. Promised myself never to love again. Was only kidding myself. Only an empty promise. Now, willing to give all I have to go thru it all over again. Hope it won't collapse this time.:) ;)
Will I find her? Rather, will she find me? Que sera, sera!  :) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on December 21, 2011, 11:00:28 AM
What happened to love,commitment and loyalty? not to mention all the things that make you want to spend the rest of your life with that person and get started as soon as possible?
i think that you should be friends first and lovers second but always work for each other other than the old "whats mine is mine and whats yours is ours"
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: aiko on December 26, 2011, 04:19:50 AM
Yes, thief.  :) ;) Will I find her? Rather, will she find me? Que sera, sera!  :) ;)

Definitely.! Whatever will be will be.. Why? Bcoz its a choice if u make things happen ;D
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on January 10, 2012, 06:23:59 AM
staying cool and collected
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 10, 2012, 11:33:15 PM
  Never cheated on my last marriage. Don’t intend to on my next. Why? ‘coz that’s the only thing good in me. Everything else about me is bad. Hehehe. ;)
So that when the day of reckoning comes and the Great Judge asks me, “Give me one good reason I should take you to heaven with Me?”, I’ll answer, “I did not cheat on my marriage, my Lord”. Makalusot ko!
  ;D ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 10, 2012, 11:41:44 PM
What happened to love,commitment and loyalty? not to mention all the things that make you want to spend the rest of your life with that person and get started as soon as possible?
i think that you should be friends first and lovers second but always work for each other other than the old "whats mine is mine and whats yours is ours"
Kinara-an nana! "'til death do us part" is a thing of the past.  :)

"How long does it last
Can love be measured by the hours in a day"
- song line from Andy Williams "Love Story"
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on February 01, 2012, 01:47:13 PM
i think that you should be friends first and lovers second but always work for each other than the old "whats mine is mine and whats yours is ours".
Title: True love never dies as we see in our eyes, only when we let go that we can tru
Post by: juan on February 15, 2012, 10:01:58 PM
“True love never dies as we see in our eyes, only when we let go that we can truly say goodbye. (anon)“ :) ;)
Title: Passion can never purchase what true love desires: true intimacy, self-gi
Post by: juan on November 22, 2012, 09:09:38 PM
“Passion can never purchase what true love desires: true intimacy, self-giving, and commitment” (unknown) :) ;)
Title: “In true love the smallest distance is too great, and the greatest distance can
Post by: juan on November 29, 2012, 01:03:55 AM
“In true love the smallest distance is too great, and the greatest distance can be bridged.” (Hans Nouwens) :) ;)
 
Title: I've learned that true friendship continues to grow, Even over the longest dista
Post by: juan on November 29, 2012, 01:13:30 AM
“I've learned that true friendship continues to grow, Even over the longest distance. Same goes for true love.” (unknown) :) ;)
Title: True love is not something that comes everyday, follow your heart, it knows the
Post by: juan on January 11, 2013, 05:04:47 PM
"True love is not something that comes everyday, follow your heart, it knows the right answer. (anonymous)" :) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on January 14, 2013, 09:53:59 AM
true love of Snow White is inspiring
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 14, 2013, 05:35:06 PM
true love of Snow White is inspiring

Yes, inspiring. The term"snow white" symbolizes purity and chastity. Pero wa na na karon. :)
Thought Boholanas are more conservative. Shocked with my experience here. :o
But what amazes more is the pic in that other site. Must have been taken when she was still a teenager. Was done at the beach. In open air. Where everybody can watch. Don't remember seeing something like that in public places in the Philippines. Interesting to know her parents' comments. Makes me wonder if she has some private site. Hehe :) ;)
And why display the pic in that other site? For male tourist attraction? ???
Becomes counterproductive when prospecting for a pr holder. ;) Know what, skipper? Find deactivating the luvly pix here only more intriguing. Viewers will wonder why deactivate. Imagination becomes exaggerated. :D ;)

My opinion only.
:) ;)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on January 14, 2013, 08:34:16 PM
hahaha, for pen pal purposes siguro lang to oi and we'll forget about it, kalooy pod kadto na lang kang dokie na naghawid ug condom kay allergic man kaha sya ug condoms hahaha
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 14, 2013, 10:09:25 PM
hehe penpal. That's what some, perhaps many, o/s coeds here do. Mentioned to them about sex working in the mines. High pay. It's summer, so, they're probably there.
Les miserables :(
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on January 14, 2013, 10:37:41 PM
i am watching that movie so les miserables
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 15, 2013, 01:32:03 AM
In a manner of speaking, I'm also one of les miserables. Can't decide what to do with my life from now on. :-\
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Post by: OMG on January 15, 2013, 01:58:55 AM
it's alright for a man to cry
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 15, 2013, 04:47:24 PM
Maybe because I refuse to believe that the world has changed. :( :)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on January 16, 2013, 05:49:38 PM
i am watching that movie so les miserables

Les Miserables (synopsis)

1815...Jean Valjean is released from the prison in Toulon after 19 years, for stealing a loaf of bread to feed his starving family, the actual sentence being 5 years, extended by several escape attempts.

However, this parole didn't really mean freedom; wherever he went, Valjean was required to show his yellow ticket of leave, which told that he was a dangerous ex-convict...not to be trusted.

Thus, he was not entitled to the same rights or wages as "honest" men. He was not even accepted at the lowliest inns, although as he insisted, he had money.

After walking for miles without food or rest, he was at last taken in by a kindly old bishop, who called him "brother", gave him food and a place to stay the night.

Valjean repaid him by taking off in the wee hours with the bishop's silver cutlery.

The police caught him and brought him back to the bishop, to confirm the ex-convict's story that the silver had been a gift.

Not only did the bishop confirm it, but he said Valjean forgot the pair of silver candlesticks that went with the set, insisting that he take them. The police left satisfied.

The bishop reminded Valjean of the "promise" he made to use the silver to "become an honest man",and that Valjean's soul now belonged to God.

Valjean was deeply moved, and after a fashion, decided to keep the promise leading to his salvation...Of course, he had to break parole to do it. He changed his name to Monsieur Madeleine, and eventually became a wealthy businessman, as well as the mayor of Montreuil-sur-Mer.
During this time, Valjean did many good deeds, most notably rescuing Monsieur Fauchelevent when his cart came down on top of him.

Nobody else in the crowd would help, so M. Madeleine got under the cart and pushed, arousing Inspector Javert's suspicion.

Javert recalled only one other man with the kind of physical strength necessary for such a rescue...a convict from the Toulon prison...Jean Valjean.

And there was the matter of Fantine.

Fantine was once a beautiful young lady...Lovely blond hair, perfect teeth...but misfortune had brought her to a tragic existence.

She had been in love,but the man was only interested in a good time, and left her with a child and no money.

She was compelled to leave her child with Monsieur and Madame Thenardier, an unscrupulous innkeeper and his wife, whom Fantine had met in her travels.

The Thenardiers treated the child, Cosette, like a tiny slave, while their own daughters were spoiled.

The Thenardiers demanded more and more money from Fantine, who sold her hair and teeth to pay for medicines for her sick daughter. (The illness was a lie.)

Fantine was forced into prostitution, since she'd lost her job at M. Madeleine's factory, due to a dispute that he allowed to happen, since he delegated the problem to the factory boss who was less than sympathetic to Fantine's plight.

Fantine was arrested for assaulting a citizen...no matter that the man was definitely the one at fault...he taunted her and threw snow at her until she retaliated, and he conveniently left the scene as soon as he could.

Naturally, since Fantine was a prostitute, she had no rights, and Javert was quite ready to send her to prison. She begged him for mercy, but to M. L'Inspecteur, all was black and white.

M.Madeleine arrived, believed Fantine's story, and set the poor woman free, in spite of Javert's protests...the Mayor pulled rank.

That very night, Javert reported his suspicions to the prefecture of police...he suspected that M. Madeleine, the respected mayor of Montreuil-sur-Mer was really ex-convict Jean Valjean.

Meanwhile, Fantine was taken to the factory infirmary where she spent the night with a high fever, and remained there since she was not recovering.
M. Madeleine started paying Fantine's debts, and attempted to send for her daughter, but the Thenardiers saw this as an opportunity for more money, and so delayed accordingly.

Madeleine decided he would have to go get Cosette himself, so Fantine dictated a letter of permission to him, that she signed. The Thenardiers would have to release the child.

As the mayor made preparations to leave town, Inspector Javert went to see him. He requested his own dismissal, because he had reported Madeleine as an escaped convict, but had later found out that the "real" Valjean had already been apprehended.
A man fitting Valjean's description had been caught stealing. He called himself Champmathieu and had never heard of Jean Valjean. Of course such a man would be sentenced to life imprisonment.

The mayor refused Javert's request, much to the policeman's displeasure. He now had more important matters to attend to.

Could he in good conscience just allow this to happen? If Champmathieu was convicted, Madeleine...Jean Valjean...would truly be free in the eyes of the law.

It would be as though Valjean never existed, except as an obscure prisoner, locked away forever.

Except that now Valjean's soul belonged to God, and to allow this to happen, would be the cause of his eternal damnation.

After making an agonizing decision, Monsieur Madeleine, Mayor of Montreuil-sur-Mer, made the journey and revealed his true identity to the court.

When he returned, his gray hair had gone completely white.

Fantine had been quite ill, but since she thought the mayor had gone to get her child, she was in good spirits. Due to her frail condition, she was allowed to believe it.

M. Madeleine was visiting Fantine when Javert came to arrest him. He announced that there was no Monsieur le Maire, only an escaped criminal...there was no child, and that Fantine herself was undeserving of such care, because of what she was.

The shock was too much for Fantine, and she fell dead, her eyes open in a horrified expression.

Valjean threatened Javert with a makeshift weapon, so he could arrange Fantine in an attitude of repose, after he softly spoke to her. Then he allowed Javert to arrest him.

Valjean was thrown into the town jail, from which he quickly escaped. He returned to take care of a few things, such as withdrawing his money from the bank and concealing it.

Soon he was recaptured and sent back to the prison. Jean Valjean eventually escaped again in a daring rescue in which he saved a man's life, but fell to his own "death" in the sea.

He resurfaced in Montfermeil, the town where the Thenardiers lived with Cosette. He arrived at their inn, and after some negotiations, took Cosette to live with him in Paris.

Some ten years later, Cosette falls in love with Marius Pontmercy, who is involved with a group of politically active students who want to start a revolution.

The Thenardiers are always lurking. M. Thenardier sets his sights on Valjean, hoping to use his past against him.

Javert is also a constant presence, and Valjean is forced to stay out of sight.

Thenardier's daughter, Eponine, in love with Marius, thwarts her father's plan to rob Valjean's house, as well as making it possible for Marius to contact Cosette.

Valjean makes the decision to take Cosette out of the country, while the revolutionary students, led by Enjolras, build a barricade from which to fight. Eponine is killed in the crossfire, taking a bullet that was intended for Marius.

Javert was at the barricade as well, posing as a volunteer, but was actually a spy for the police. Gavroche, Thenardier's neglected son, who was as much a revolutionary as the students, pointed that fact out to Enjolras, who saw to it that Javert was bound in the tavern to be executed later.

Valjean intercepts a letter from Marius to Cosette, declaring his love for her.

In agony that he's lost Cosette already, Valjean joins the battle. Nobody recognizes him as he fights alongside the students and other volunteers, and Valjean's heroics afford him the chance to blow Javert's brains out.

Valjean releases Javert, much to the policeman's horror, and allows him to go free. Valjean tells Javert where he can be found if he's not killed on the barricade.

The outcome of the battle is grim. Enjolras and his followers are all killed. Even Gavroche does not survive this night. The only living souls are Jean Valjean and the gravely wounded Marius Pontmercy.

In order to rescue Marius without being seen and recaptured, Valjean carries him through the sewers.

It is a grueling, exhausting journey. Finally, Valjean approaches the gate. He is unable to open it. Thenardier meets him there, and believing that Valjean has killed Marius in order to rob him, makes a deal with him. Thenardier, who has the master key, lets Valjean escape with the body in exchange for half the take.

Valjean allows Thenardier to rob Marius, and Thenardier lets them go. Just as Valjean gets the half-dead Marius out of there, Javert finds them. Valjean convinces Javert to help him bring Marius home to his estranged grandfather, M. Gillenormand, and then convinces him to make a brief stop at Valjean's home before taking him into custody. Surprisingly, Javert agrees to this, and tells Valjean he'll wait for him.

But when Valjean looks out the window, Javert is gone.

Unable to reconcile Valjean's merciful act, and indeed, his own response to it with his rigid sense of justice, Javert sets his affairs in order and commits suicide by throwing himself into the Seine.

Marius slowly recovers, reconciling with his grandfather, and being nursed by Cosette. They plan their wedding.

Realizing that if the truth about his past is discovered, Cosette would be disgraced, Valjean decides that his best course of action is to remove himself from her life. He tells Marius only enough of the truth so that Marius agrees, and Valjean simply fades out of their lives.

The cost of this arrangement proves to be too much for the old man, however. His heart is broken for the love of Cosette, and he gradually weakens and is soon dying.

Meanwhile, M. Thenardier resurfaces. He has news to sell to Marius, M. le Baron Pontmercy. Marius, thinking he knew the story, tells Thenardier so...Valjean, an ex-convict, had robbed M. Madeleine, mayor of Montreuil-sur-Mer, and forged his signature. He also murdered Inspector Javert. Of that, Marius believed he was a witness.

Thenardier corrected Marius, informing him that Valjean WAS Madeleine, and that Javert had murdered himself, and he had the paperwork to prove it. However, even though Valjean had not killed Javert, he was still a murderer.

Thenardier went on to describe the events in the sewers the night the barricades fell. Valjean was seen carrying a corpse he had robbed. Thenardier showed Marius a scrap of cloth he'd kept from the corpse's coat. Marius recognized it as his own. Valjean was the man who'd brought him home from the barricade. He was not a murderer, not a thief, but a saint!

Marius was overjoyed! He threw money at Thenardier, telling him to go at once, paying his way to America with his daughter Azelma, NOT his wife, who was already dead.

Thenardier did as he was told, and went into the slave trade in America.

Marius quickly gathered Cosette to see her father. They were going to bring him back to live with them forever, but it was not to be.

Jean Valjean was simply too far gone. He made his peace with Marius, told him and Cosette the entire truth, and died peacefully, his hands resting on their heads, the light from the two candlesticks shining on his face.


Four lines of verse chalked upon a stone in the cemetery of Pere Lachaise:

Il dort. Quoique le sort fut pour lui bien etrange,
Il vivait. Il mourut quand il n'eut plus son ange.
La chose simplement d'elle-meme arriva,
Comme la nuit se fait lorsque le jour s'en va.

He sleeps. Although so much he was denied,
He lived; and when his dear love left him, died.
It happened of itself, in the calm way
That in the evening night-time follows day.


from the novel by Victor Hugo. ("The hidden grave")
Title: True love is like a butterfly. Once it is gone it has flown away and it is near
Post by: juan on March 02, 2013, 07:17:53 PM
"True love is like a butterfly. Once it is gone it has flown away and it is nearly impossible to recapture it." :) ;)
- Anonymous
Title: Antipathy, dissimilarity of views, hate, contempt, can accompany true love.
Post by: juan on March 02, 2013, 07:25:59 PM
Antipathy, dissimilarity of views, hate, contempt, can accompany true love. :) ;)
- J. August Strindberg
Title: True love is a discipline in which each divines the secret self of the other and
Post by: juan on March 02, 2013, 07:33:15 PM
"True love is a discipline in which each divines the secret self of the other and refuses to believe in the mere daily self." :) ;)
- William Butler Yeats
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: juan on December 01, 2014, 05:36:49 PM
Celine Dion-The power of love (with lyrics) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnKpbIkDsag#)

 :)
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: OMG on July 29, 2015, 02:37:39 AM
"True love is a discipline in which each divines the secret self of the other and refuses to believe in the mere daily self." :) ;)
- William Butler Yeats

refuses to believe
Title: Re: "true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away
Post by: felix on July 31, 2015, 03:14:02 AM
"true love is life's best treasure. wealth and fame may pass away, bring no joy or lasting pleasure. true love abides all way. through the world i'll gladly go, if one true love i know."
true!!!